Ethanol levels could be on rise

Gary M.
03/21/2009 9:28 PM

Kathy, could you define your definition of 'the poor'?

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Michelle H.
03/21/2009 7:34 PM

Actually Kathy, that's not entirely true. I did not know until recently that my party of my tuition for a college education at SMSU (a MnSCU school) is subsidized by taxpayer money. Now, I am a working taxpayer, so it's reasonable to consider I'm paying my own way completely. However, not all students work during school. So keep in mind that anyone who goes or had kids go to a MnSCU school is getting a "handout" of sorts.

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Kathy B.
03/21/2009 10:33 AM

To be honest, not everyone "gets" a handout. Only a select few -- the "poor".

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Michelle H.
03/20/2009 11:04 AM

This isn't going to "create new jobs." It will simply put people back to work!

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Gary M.
03/20/2009 10:18 AM

You've got that right michelle. People seem to forget the late 70s with OPEC and the gas prices spiking up. America started to use less gas, the automakers started making smaller and more fuel efficient vehicles and we were headed on the right track. The major recession in the early eighties (almost as bad as the one we are in now) kept things going in the right direction. Remember the gasohol push? Same as the ethanol push now. The oil companies managed to turn us against it. If We would have kept on that path our dependence on foreign oil would probably at least been half of what it is now. Then there was the booming nineties where everyone suddenly needed big gas guzzling vehicles and only worsened our oil dependence and big oil spiked the gas prices up and took hundreds of billions of dollars in profit and blamed it on ethanol and unfortunately most of the american public believed them! Now that gas prices have fallen again we must not stop what we have started like last time and keep pushing for less dependence on oil. Even if it takes some subsidies..in the long run we will win.

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Semore p.
03/20/2009 9:20 AM

O Randy, it would work but big oil shouldnt get breaks either (or ziggy or wind or ethanol or the Twins...). Why does everybody have their hand out? Do all business plans include government hands outs? If he gets a hand out, I want a hand out, and so on and so on and so on......$$$$ Lets get Stevens County moving forward independently. It can happen.

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Randy O.
Hoffman, MN     03/19/2009 10:18 PM

Semore p, gas from crude oil wouldn't work without the heavy hand of government help. You're off base man, sorry to break it to you.

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Michelle H.
03/19/2009 9:26 PM

Gary, the problem I see is that our leaders are not looking at the "big picture." There doesn't seem to be a lot of strategic (10-20 year) planning from the federal government down through the local governments.

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Gary M.
03/19/2009 5:56 PM

Well, I'll admit I just threw a number out there but 300 million is the US population..not the number of taxpaying households. Approx 110 mil. And the total of bailouts now exceeds 4.6 Trillion dollars and we are not done yet. So far that brings us to 55.2G per household. Wouldn't that eliminate the majority of foreclosures? The influx of cash directly into the nations economy pretty much end the recession? American people with money to spend again? A rush of investing? We just need to look at the big picture. I am not saying I am right..probably not, but we need to think of all the possibilities rather than implementing the knee-jerk reactions that has been happening. I appreciate your comments and opinions..greed and waste is what got the country into this mess.

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Semore p.
03/19/2009 4:19 PM

Gary??? 1 Trillion Divided equally for the 300 million people the US is 3,333 K that is about 196,000 K short of your estimate. You are drinking the cool aid. All borrowed money, not magic Santa money (our taxes).

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